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Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:28:00 -
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Yeah no. This is not a good idea. That reload time = no more damage type selection more or less. You are stuck with scourge. I suggest you start with making sure hmls are actually good before you actually touch anything else with missiles.
Oh and a bs with rhmls still won't do **** to a good ceptor pilot so gg whoever thinks this will shield bs fleets vs frigs.
Based god out |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:43:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:This is a terrible idea.
1) Having a lot of downtime is just bad gameplay design. In a gang, you might stay on the field to provide point and webs, but if you are solo, you basically are going to kill 1-2 targets and warp out. And then nobody gets to do anything for the next 40s while you reload. It promotes non-interactive gameplay.
2) Its not intuitive. Its yet another thing that vets know that noobs dont.
3) Its not that people use rapid lights because they are really good. We use them because the other medium missile systems are utter trash. I would love to be able to use heavy missiles again, but there is just no reason since they are currently the worst weapon system in the entire game for anything but giant blobs.
4) There is no alternative. You can use normal shield boosters instead of ancillary boosters. You can use normal armor reps instead of ancillary reps. There are good reasons to choose each. For medium missile launchers, there isnt any alternative to rapid lights. Heavy missiles are too slow, do too little damage for the fitting, and apply too poorly. Heavy assaults are too short range, and apply even more poorly.
5) While roaming, its can be very difficult to make a 40s reload when going gate to gate. This will just slow gangs down, with no real reason to do so.
Making this change will basically just end the use of missile ships in small gangs. People will just go to other ships, instead of dealing with the possibility of being tackled and having to wait for close to a minute to return fire.
If you want people to choose heavy missiles, then make heavy missiles be something besides a trash tier weapons system.
This pretty much sums up why this is a horrible idea. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:40:00 -
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rapid lights only do 1k ish alpha |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.09 12:15:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:This thread reming me about HML nerf...
People are really attached to their OP stuff.
Right now, RLML are almost always better than HML on cruisers, and they almost obsolete destroyers : they are OP.
HML might have been slitghly overnerfed (people cryed for it though ; I mean those who used them...), but LM have been overbuffed I think. But then the problem is light missiles, not RLML in themselves.
As for this new mechanic, I find it excellent. And people are completely ignorant about what these 40s means. In this version, a Caracal will be able to kill 2 or 3 frigates before reloading 50seconds later. In fact, this is a huge buff for FW situations where they already obliterate frigates because they will now do it faster before warping out anyway. It's simple : if the fight last less than 2 minutes, you'll be better served than before ; and if it last longer, dps will slightly fall, but you might have taken the advantage anyway.
As for those crying about the anti cruiser capabilities of RLML, this is exactly the proof of their OPness : they should not replace HAM or HML...
Missiles... *sigh*
Do you seriously expect to be able to go up in a frig against a ******* cruiser and win every single time. There are ways frigs can kill rlml caracals but since you are so ******** I wont even tell you. Stop crying about your **** fw frig blobs dying to well piloted cruisers. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.09 14:13:00 -
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Confirming that a 200 dps weapon system is overpowered and need nerfing.. r u 4 rela? |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:44:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Fun fact: A cerb with normal light missile launchers will do MORE sustained dps than a cerb fit with rapid light missile launchers
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Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:38:00 -
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Yes ccp wants feedback but nearly all feedback is negative at the moment. Rise then ignores all the negative feedback because "people complain about nerfs = weapon must be op". This is a bad change and its hillarious when fitting normal lmls will provide more sustained dps. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.10 13:30:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/nK8quTd.jpg Twerk on my D |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:56:00 -
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Bouh It's time to chill down and stop posting + suck my D while I F your A |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:24:00 -
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I do not think subhumans should have their stupid opinions known to the rest of us. We are discussing this weapons in a pvp enviroment atm and if you do not even pvp you should just shut up. |
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Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.12 13:32:00 -
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lol at people being positive in external forums. Never ever read and think that something on failheap by prometheus or someone else is ok or actually smart.
I guess Light missile cerb with 2x xl-asbs is viable now. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:56:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Chessur wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:LOL I'm am truely surprised by how many people are so butthurt that they will no longer be able WTFBBPWN frig gangs with a single RLML cruiser.... Aw go cry a river somewhere else. Name another frig killing cruiser that uses turrets that are as effective as RLML ones? There aren't simple as that. Medium sized turrets have majore drawback when attacking small ship classes. The new RLML will still have good damage application to smaller ship but now you will have to think tactically rather than just pushing keep at range and F1. Adapt or die! Actually no don't adapt and die lots more  Yah.... How about, you are wrong. Nomen, Zealot, Rail diemos, Rail thorax, Rail Exq Navy, Oracle, Cynabal, Omen, Ishtar, Navy Vexor All of those ships destroy light tackle. Go away chessur this is a conversation for grown ups. All of the above ships quoted can be killed by a cookie cutter rifter. (yes even after the 'nerfs') if he has a good warp in. All you have actually done is reinforced that the RLML caracal will have to flown with similiar tactical thought as other ships than can kill frigs. Currently these ships are good at killing frig because of the tactics needed not because the weapon system is good at killing frigs. After the changes the RLML carcals et all will have to start tactical thinking rather than just plow into that frig gang and press F1 and farm km's.
Are you serious?
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Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.12.04 13:25:00 -
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Tried the new rlmls. All I have 2 say is top lel way 2 ruin a weapon system ccp. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.12.27 08:58:00 -
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I tried it recently. Having to warp between every frig kill sucks really hard and you can't really shoot anything other then t1 frigs.
Worst part is when a target gets out after you shot 2-3 volleys at them and you sit there without enough missiles to kill another frig. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.12.28 09:37:00 -
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if you have your target webbed and painted you might aswell use hmls or like you know any other real weapon system. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.12.28 11:14:00 -
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I think I do.
But if I intent on webbing my targets I might aswell use something real with more dmg then hams, hmls or rlmls. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:11:00 -
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But rlmls were op and needed a new exiting change so it's ok that they are not used anymore. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:22:00 -
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you could have fitted blasters to that tengu and still killed a catalyst bro. |

Gorski Car
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:41:00 -
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or Rubicon 1.1 hml ham torp v1 |
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